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Full name : Ebenezer Webb
Alternate spellings, aliases : Ebenezer Webb, Sr.
Notes : He was named for an elder brother who was born 26 April 1712 and died 8 January 1713.
Parents :
Father : Samuel Webb
Mother : Hannah Ripley
note : His mother was a daughter of Joshua Ripley, town clerk of Windham, and great-granddaughter of Gov. William Bradford of the Plymouth Colony.
Vital stats :
Date of Birth : 12 January 1718/9
Place of Birth : Windham, Windham County, Connecticut
Date of Death : 11 February 1803
Place of Death : Scotland Society, (East) Windham County, Connecticut
Burial Information : He is supposedly buried in the old burial ground in the Scotland Society in Windham County
Spouse :
Name : Ruth Crane
Date of Marriage : 3 December 1740 (Windham Vitals v1, p210)
Place of Marriage : Windham, Windham County, Connecticut
Died : 28 February 1796
Notes : Ruth was Ebenezer’s cousin. Their grandmothers were siblings; Ebenezer’s grandmother, Mary Adams Webb was sister to Rebecca Adams Waldo, who was Ruth Crane’s grandmother. Ruth Crane Webb was admitted as a Communicant to the First Church of Windham on 23 May 1742, two months before the birth of her first son.
Military Service : Ebenezer Webb, Senior of Windham may have rendered some military service in the Revolutionary War, but it is very unlikely that he did. All of his sons, Darius, Jonathan, Christopher, including his youngest son Ebenezer Webb Jr. served as soldiers in the Revolution, from which much confusion stems. At the time of the Revolution Ebenezer Sr. was 56 years old, his sons Christopher and Ebenezer were still single; Ebenezer Jr. still lived in his father’s home. When the Lexington Alarm was announced, Ebenezer Jr. left from his father’s home in Scotland Society, Windham County and went towards Boston with Major Obadiah Johnson, occupying Cambridge, Massachusetts during the time of the battle at Breed’s Hill. He returned in December 1775 accompanied by his brother Christopher.
A great deal of searching for a similar record to attach to Ebenezer Webb Sr. has resulted in nothing of the sort being uncovered. In fact, Ebenezer Webb Sr.’s name is conspicuously absent from any Connecticut records made during the war. He did not loan any moneys to the Connecticut Continental Loan office from circa 1777-1780, participate in any lotteries or otherwise loan or give any cash to the United States by the purchase of certificates, bonds or notes. He paid taxes to the town and County of Windham, and the town offered bounties and prizes to soldiers that enlisted from the town. It appears that he only participated in this small fashion.
Some descendants of Ebenezer Webb Sr. of Windham, anxious to have multiple patriotic ancestors on their application forms to lineage organizations such as the National Society Sons of the American Revolution and the National Society Daughters of the American Revolution, jumped to conclusions about Ebenezer Webb Jr’s service. They assigned his citation of service to his father without performing the due diligence necessary to ensure that the correct individual had been identified. It appears that the cause of the confusion about Ebenezer Sr. of Windham began about 1897 (and perhaps much earlier) with the DAR application of Mrs. Amelia Stone Quinton of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (Natl # 19525) and the SAR application of her brother, Mr. Seymour Henry Stone of Syracuse, New York, (National # 10638). In their respective applications they both stated the same basic facts (and the same falsehoods) about their ancestor – that he had served in the Lexington Alarm.
Seymour H. Stone’s entry in a SAR yearbook states, “Retired. Born, Homer, N.Y., July 27, 1831. Lieutenant in Co. A, 51st Regt. N.G.N.Y., over 30 years ago. Member of all Masonic bodies, York and Scottish rites; Society of Mayflower Descendants and the Onondaga County Historical Society. Son of Jacob Thompson Stone and Mary Bennett; grandson of Thomas Stone, Jr., and Mary Webb, and of Asa Bennett, Jr., and Chloe Grow; great-grandson of Thomas Stone, Sr., and Rachel Marsh, and of Darius Webb and Deborah Palmer; gt-gt-grandson of Ebenezer Webb and Ruth Crane.”
It appears that Mrs. A. S. Quinton & Mr. S. H. Stone were confused about the service of their great-great grandfather, Ebenezer Webb Sr. of Windham, and obviously unaware of the service of his great grandfather, Darius Webb. They claimed that Ebenezer Webb Sr. of Windham served in Captain Obadiah Johnson’s Company, Colonel Israel Putnam’s 3rd Regiment Connecticut Troops during Lexington Alarm. It was further claimed (by some descendants) that he was at Bunker Hill, but absolutely no evidence has come forth to support this claim (but it was convincing enough to have gained them entry to the SAR & DAR).
In the mid-twentieth century, the mistake was further spread by Mr. Webb Hester of Norwalk, Huron County, Ohio, also one of Ebenezer Webb’s ancestors. He was an assertive and well schooled genealogist, but he did not live long enough to complete his research and was also unaware of the service of his great-great-great-grandfather Darius Webb. Based upon his research, his cousin, Mrs. Lulu Viola Webb Brown of Chicago, Cook County, Illinois queried the War Department in December 1933 about which Ebenezer was which. It appeared that the government didn’t know either, as they sent her copies of Ebenezer Jr.’s record and she was accepted into the DAR on the erroneous service of Ebenezer Webb Sr. of Windham. Mrs. Brown was the great-great-granddaughter of Darius Webb, and also unaware of his service.
The official citation from the War Department for the service of Ebenezer Webb Jr is as follows :
“Ebenezer Webb appears with the rank of … on a Pay Roll of Major Obadiah Johnson’s Company in the 3d Reg’t of Foot, raised by the Colony of Connecticut, 1775 (Revolutionary War), …Time of enlistment May 19, 1775. Discharged Dec 16, 1775. Months and days in the service 6 mos 28 days. Premium for enlisting ?2 s12. Whole of pay ?16 s8.”
The 3rd Regiment was commanded by Colonel Israel Putnam, and the Company by Captain Obadiah Johnson, 1st Lieutenant Ephraim Lyon, 2nd Lieutenant Willis Clift and Ensign Abner Robinson. This service clearly belongs to Ebenezer Jr., (the son of Ebenezer Sr.) as is clearly stated in the pension application of Ebenezer Webb Jr. In the service stated, Captain Johnson’s sergeant was Adam Stevens, who testified that it was the younger Ebenezer who served with him, even stating that Ebenezer served an extra month “…faithfully.”
The unfortunate mistake was repeated again, this time in print by another of Ebenezer Webb Sr.’s descendants, Commander Dewitt Clinton Webb, USN, in his 1958 work entitled Ancestors and family histories of Lucius Webb, Jr. and Emogene Fuller Webb. He seems to have accepted without any reservations, the assertions of Stone and others that Ebenezer Webb Sr. of Windham had served. Commander Webb was descended from Ebenezer Sr.’s son Jonathan Webb. Jonathan did serve in the Revolution and was at Valley Forge under command of Ebenezer’s first cousin, Captain Nathaniel Webb, 4th Regiment Connecticut Militia.
Confused yet? Hold on. Due diligence and careful scrutiny is necessary in this situation as there are at least four or five individuals named Ebenezer Webb living in the Colony of Connecticut on the outset of the Revolution in 1775. Three of the men named Ebenezer Webb have been identified as coming from the Stamford and Long island branch of the Webb line, so far shown to be completely unrelated to the Windham group. The Stamford group claims descent from a Richard Webb of Cambridge, Connecticut and the Windham group is a sept of the Webb’s of Braintree, Massachusetts who claim descent through a Christopher Webb. How all of these men may or may not be related is not clear, but their interactions and proximity to one another in place & time seem to indicate that they were aware of each other’s existence. It is entirely possible that these men may have even thought they were related when in fact they were not. Once they, or some of their descendants moved to upstate New York, their paths became inter-tangled like pretzels.
(1) Ebenezer Webb (of Stamford, Fairfield County, Connecticut) was born 14 September 1756 in Stamford, Connecticut to Benjamin Webb and Mary Cross, his wife. Benjamin Webb & Mary Cross were married on 5 October 1732. On 8 September 1785 Ebenezer Webb married to Hannah Todd.
Notes : “Ebenezer Webb, Private, Captain Jonathan Mill’s Company of 2nd Connecticut Regiment, Charles Webb, Colonel, appears in a book, copied from rolls of the organization named above. Date of appointment or enlistment } March 1, 1777. Term – war. Casualties – discharged March 1, 1780.” He is also listed at White Plains 4 August 1778 and 1 September 1778 (which would place him with troops under Washington’s command), at Fredericksburg 3 October 1778, and Second (sic) Hill 4 November 1778. On 2 December 1778 he was transferred to Captain Parson’s Company at Hartford as a Taylor (sic). He was later working in Norwalk, Connecticut as a Taylor before being discharged in 1780. He served at Valley Forge. His widow may have claimed a pension.
(2) Ebenezer Webb (of Stamford, Fairfield County, Connecticut) was born 27 May 1764 in Stamford, Connecticut to Epenetus Webb and Sarah Judson, his wife. Epenetus Webb & Sarah Judson were married 30 May 1762. On 30 August 1786 he married Phoebe Todd. He died in 4 September 1834 in Stamford, Fairfield County, Connecticut.
Notes : Sergeant Epenetus Webb (the subject’s grandfather) served in Captain Nathaniel Webb’s Company, Lt. Col. John Medley’s 9th Regiment Connecticut Militia, marched on 12 August 1776, discharged 27 September 1776. It has been surmised by some that Ebenezer served in the same unit during the same tour of duty. It is known that Sergeant Epenetus Webb of Stamford and his son Ebenezer Webb of Stamford served at Valley Forge, under command of Colonel Charles Webb’s 2nd Regiment Connecticut Militia. Epenetus had another son named Judson, who moved to Onondaga County, New York after the revolutionary period. Coincidently, Judson lived in Onondaga County, New York during the War of 1812, the same county where David Webb, the grandson of Ebenezer Webb Sr. of Windham, son of Sergeant Darius Webb & Deborah Palmer, also lived. Both men served as officers in the Onondaga County militia.
(3) Ebenezer Webb (of Southold, Long Island, New York) was born 20 November 1697 to Henry Webb and May Hurlburt, his wife. Ebenezer Webb & Mary Turrell were married.. ? They had a son named Ebenezer, born before 1750.
Notes : His descendants claim that he was an Associator of Southold, Suffolk County, New York from 1775.
There is no doubt that Ebenezer Webb Sr. of Windham manifested the American ideals of liberty, fairness and equality. In April 1773 he and others also feeling repressed, protested against an unfair levy of ecclesiastical tax on members of his church in Scotland Society, Windham County, Connecticut. There were several churches in the community, but one of these was the ‘state church’ and colony taxes went towards supported the parsonage. The church they did not want to attend or pay for was the church run by the Rev. Devotion and Rev. Cogswell. Some members had previously left and followed Rev. John Palmer to the so-called ‘Brunswick’ church. A plea to the government of the Colony of Connecticut resulted in the tax being lifted and order was restored to the members of the society. This is hardly a martial action, but it represents the spirit of liberty; in fact the ideal of ‘no taxation without representation’ and ‘separation of church & state’ has never been more directly interpreted into reality by a member of this family. It must have set a precedent for his offspring to live by.
It is likely that Ebenezer served in some capacity as a militiaman for Windham County in the years before the Revolutionary War, and he would have been the right age for service in the Seven Years War against the French & Indians. No evidence has surfaced which indicates he did either, or had any military motives in any way. What is also likely is that during the Revolutionary War, he rendered what has been termed as ‘Patriotic Service’ and may have produced supplies, loaned money or in other ways aided and assisted the cause of liberty.
Residences, property : He was born in Windham County and lived near Windham Centre in the First Society (parish), until about 1750 when he removed to the Third Society, Scotland Parish (same county) where he lived the rest of his life.
1790 Federal Census. Windham, Windham County, Connecticut.
Head of Family, Free White Males 16>, <16, Free White Females, Others, Slaves
Ebenezer Webb, 1, 0, 2, 0, 0
1800 Federal Census. Town of Windham, Windham County, Connecticut
Page, Head, Free Males <10, 10-16, 16-26, 26-45 >45, Free Females <10, 10-16, 16-26, 26-45 >45, Others, Slaves
872, Ebenezer Webb, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1, 0, 0
872, Stephen Webb, 1, 1, 2, 0, 1, 0, 1, 1, 0, 1, 0, 0
872, Jared Webb, 2, 1, 0, 1, 0, 2, 0, 1, 1, 2, 0, 0
Occupation(s) : farmer, father, Church member
Religious participation : Christian; Congregational; United with the First Church of Windham on 2 May 1736, by Rev. Thomas Clap; in 1749 joined with others to separate and form another church in Scotland Society, under Rev. Ebenezer Devotion & Rev. Cogswell; soon after the ‘Separates’ broke off from Devotion’s church, and followed Rev. John palmer, a fiery preacher, to services at Brunswick meeting house, also in Scotland Society; in 1773 formalized the separation by protesting the ecclesiastical tax of the society he resided in, refusing to pay for the upkeep of the Scotland Society church.
In Connecticut Public Records, Volume 14, May 1773, page 155; listed on docket as Zacha. Waldo &c. :
”That in 1749, believing that in good conscience that the principles and articles and some of the doctrines adhered to by the Scotland church and people, were not agreeable to the gospel, and as they or most of them hoped they were enlightened by the light of God’s countenance, and found by repeated trials that they could not profit by the ministrations of Mr. Devotion, and in 1749, confederated together separate from said minister and people, and set up a religious worship according to the dictates of the own consciences, and called Mr. John Palmer as elder or teacher, who was ordained over them and has continued preaching the gospel and administering the sacraments to your memorialists, and they have freely contributed to his support, and built a comfortable house to accommodate those who join with them in divine service, and all this time have been forced to pay for the support of Mr. Devotion and Mr. Cogswell, and repairing the meeting house, and other society charges, although they have earnestly requested relief in vain. – wherein they beg you to consider if it is agreeable to the laws of Christ or consonant to the rules of equity for your memorialists and their children, to have their effects by force of law taken from them to support a minister with whom they never did nor can join in worship, and support their own minister too, and pray you to take their distressing case into your consideration and enact that they be made a distinct society. (among others named below, Ebenezer Webb signed this). Windham, April 5, 1773.”
From Connecticut Public Records, Volume 14, January 1774, page 246 :
“Upon the memorial of Zacheus Waldo, Zebulon Hibbard, Benjamin Cleaveland, Joseph Allen, Lemuel Bingham, Ebenezer Webb, John Palmer, John Walden, Israel Hale, Stephen Webb, William Perkins, Joseph Allen junr, Jonathan Brewster, Ebenezer Bass, John Silsberry, Timothy Allen, Samuel Baker junr, Jebediah Bingham, Zebulon Hibbard junr, Henry Bass, and Moses Cleaveland, inhabitants of the third society at Windham, shewing (sic) that they, the memorialists, and their families, have for a long time attended on the ministry of Mr. John Palmer of said Windham, and do conscientiously dissent from the ministry established in said society, and that said society has assessed the memorialists for building a meeting-house and supporting their minister : praying to be made a distinct ecclesiastical society and be exempted from paying said rates &c., as per memorial on file : Resolved by this Assembly, that the memorialists and their families be and they are hereby constituted a distinct ecclesiastical society, and shall be called and known by the name Brunswick, and that they, their families and descendants, shall have and enjoy all the privileges, advantages and exemptions which other ecclesiastical societies by law and entitles unto, so long as they attend publick worship and support the ministry among themselves, and shall not be taxed to the support of the ministry or for building meeting-houses by said third society; and the taxes already laid by said third society upon the memorialists for building a meeting-house and supporting the minister which are not collected shall not be collected, and they are hereby discharged therefrom.”
Family :
Son : Darius Webb
Date of Birth : 28 July 1742 (Windham Vitals v1, p210)
Place of Birth : Windham, Connecticut
Married1 : Deborah Palmer, 9 October 1767, Windham, Windham County, Connecticut (Windham Vitals v2, p203)
Married2 : … nee : Lawrence
Died : 1828, Homer, Cortland County, New York
Notes : Perhaps he was baptized in the First Church of Windham because his mother joined the church on 23 May 1742. John Adams Vinton wrote, “…he removed ‘West’, as it was then called and lived in several places in the State of New York.” He was a soldier and a Patriot in the Revolutionary War.
Son : Jerusha Webb
Date of Birth : 17 April 1744 (Windham Vitals v1, p210)
Place of Birth : Windham, Connecticut
Married : never married as far as anyone knows for sure
Died : 25 November 1827
Notes : The following record may be for Jerusha… from New London Vital Statistics from the Collated Copy from the Original Records, Volume 1, page 70, “Thomas Rarstock & (?) Webb - dau. Ebenezer Webb - October 30- 1776.”
Daughter : Ann Webb
Date of Birth : 13 March 1745-6 (Windham Vitals v1, p210)
Place of Birth : Windham, Connecticut
Married : Samuel Coburn, 31 May 1778
Died :
Notes : He may be the same Samuel Coburn of Canterbury, Connecticut that served in Abner Bacon’s Company, 4th Regiment Connecticut Infantry. He originally enlisted for a term of eight months was listed as sick at Canterbury, Connecticut in 1778.
Son : Jonathan Webb
Date of Birth : 2 October 1747 (Windham Vitals v1, p210)
Place of Birth : Windham, Connecticut
Married : Abigail Curtiss
Died : 14 July 1830, Lisbon, New London, Connecticut
Notes : He served in Revolutionary War in Captain Nathaniel Webb’s Company, 4th Regiment Connecticut Infantry (Militia); was at Valley Forge. They sired eleven children; his son Ariel Webb may have served in War of 1812, in Atchison’s Reg’t New York Militia as Fife Major.
Daughter : Allice Webb
Date of Birth : 3 August 1749 (Windham Vitals v1, p210)
Place of Birth : Windham, Connecticut
Married : Ezekiel Perigo, 29 October 1772
Died :
Notes : Allice spelled with two L’s. They lived in Hanover Society, Lisbon, Connecticut; had nine children including Eleanor Perigo, born April 1778; Azel Perigo, born 29 April 1780; Bottum Perigo, born 2 May 1782; Susanna Perigo, born 15 September 1784; Olive Perigo, born September 1786; Samuel Perigo, born 18 January 1789; Abigail Perigo, born 11 May 1791; Roswell Perigo, born 6 July 1793; Ruby Perigo, born 6 July 1796.
Daughter : Ruth Webb
Date of Birth : 22 February 1750/1 (Windham Vitals v1, p210)
Place of Birth : Windham, Connecticut
Married : Nathan Rood (sister of Abigail Rood who married Ebenezer Webb Jr)
Died :
Notes : They removed to Pennsylvania. Nathan Rood was a Baptist Preacher, later becoming a Restorationist. They had four children – Persis, Nathan, Reuben, Simeon.
Daughter : Elizabeth Webb
Date of Birth : 19 February 1753 (Windham Vitals v1, p210)
Place of Birth : Windham, Connecticut
Married : John Wentworth, 25 November 1773 (Canterbury Vitals v1, p236)
Died :
Notes : Lived in Canterbury, Windham, Connecticut in 1790; thereafter in Hanover Society, near Sprague, Connecticut. John Wentworth served very briefly as a soldier and was a Patriot in the Revolutionary War.
Son : Christopher Webb
Date of Birth : 14 June 1755 (Windham Vitals v1, p210)
Place of Birth : Windham, Connecticut
Married1 : Olive Brown, 8 January 1778, Windham County, Connecticut (Windham Vitals v2, p220) (she died 21 march 1786)
Married2 : …nee: Davenport, after 1786
Married3 : Sally Branch
Died : 1837, Cazenovia, New York
Notes : Christopher was a soldier and true Patriot of the Revolutionary war, he actually ‘fought’ at Saratoga and witnessed the Capture of Burgoyne. Four of his children by first wife include Reverend Daniel Webb, a Methodist Minister; also Adin, a teacher in Homer, New York; Abijah, a farmer; Martin Luther, a farmer.
Son : Ebenezer Webb, Jr.
Date of Birth : 28 May 1757 (Windham Vitals v1, p210)
Place of Birth : Windham, Connecticut
Married : Abigail Rood (Rude), 28 August 1777, Windham County, Connecticut (Windham Vitals v2, p246)
Died :
Notes : He was a soldier and a Patriot of the Revolutionary War. They had two children in Windham (Sarah b.1778, Reuben b.1780) and more children in Norwich, Massachusetts.
Daughter : Hannah Webb
Date of Birth : 31 August 1759 (Windham Vitals v1, p210)
Place of Birth : Windham, Connecticut
Married : Jonas Wright …or… Baldwin
Died : 23 January 1829 (?)
Comments, sources, various additional :
Vinton, John Adams. The Giles Memorial – Genealogical Memoirs of the Families Bearing the Names Giles, Gould, Holmes, Jennison, Leonard, Lindall, Curwen, Marshall, Robinson, Sampson, and Webb; also Genealogical Sketches of the Pool, Very, Carr and other Families with a history of Pemaquid, ancient and modern; some account of early settlements in Maine; and some details of Indian warfare. Printed for the author, by Henry W. Dutton & Son, Washington Street, Boston. 1864. pp 496 – 532, 556.
Crane, Ellery Bicknell. Genealogy of the Crane Family Volume II. Descendants of Benjamin Crane, of Wethersfield, Conn., and John Crane, of Coventry, Conn., also of Jasper Crane, of New Haven, Conn., and Newark, N. J. and Stephen Crane, of Elizabethtown, N. J. with families of the name in New Hampshire, Maryland and Virginia. Press of Charles Hamilton. Worcester, Massachusetts, 1900.
Lincoln, Waldo. Genealogy of the Waldo Family. A record of the descendants of Cornelius Waldo of Ipswich, Massachusetts from 1647 to 1900. Volume 1. Press of Charles Hamilton. Worchester, Massachusetts, 1902.
M637. 1790 Federal Census of Windham, Windham County, Connecticut. Roll1. National Archives and Records Administration. Washington, DC. Viewed 2001.
Connecticut Public Records, Volume 14, January 1774, page 246
Records of the Congregational Church in Windham, Conn. 1700-1851. Connecticut Historical Society. Hartford, 1943.
Windham Town Records, Vital Records
Means, F. H., Rev., editor. The Two-hundredth Anniversary of the Organization of the Congreagational Church in Windham, Conn. Dec. 10, 1900. Hall & Bill Printing Company, Willimantic, Connecticut. 1901.
M1005. Department of the Treasury Records of Bureau of Public Debt. Records of Connecticut Continental Loan Office 1777-1779. Rg53 (two reels)
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My Family
MY FAMILY circa 1959
In the beginning….
Hey Pop, how much longer is it to Cincinnati?
A couple more hours!
MOM! I need the jar!
ME too mom!
And that was what it was like in a 1955 Ford Customline Fordor from the back, clear vinyl covered bench seat with a hump on the floor in abt. 1959. The jar was for the purpose of us three boys back there to use when we had to go number one while on long drives.
Dan, that’s me, was nine years old, Tom, the younger brother was six and Dave was all of twelve. Hattie, my mom was thirty nine and Don, my dad was thirty four which, I didn’t know the age difference between mom and dad until about thirty years later. They didn’t want us to know there was a difference back then and I still do not know why not, they just didn’t.
Well, we were on our way to Cincinnati on what we called our summer vacation which was two days to pack, a day on the road, two days to stay there, a day to drive home, a day to unpack and a day to rest before resuming our normal lifestyles.
This vacation was well planned. It included snacks, canteens, comic books, pillows and blankets though mom eventuall said, “Don, go back, I forgot my girdle!” and that’s when I learned what a girdle was. We were on our way to see some old friends that moved away some two years ago, they had a horse and a place for us all to stay.
Dad drove into Cincinnati earlier than he expected so rather than go directly to our friend’s house we pulled up in front of a tall downtown building and we just sat there in the car. “No Don! – Yes Hattie!” the conversation went and we sat there.
Us boys, had no clue as to what the yes’s and no’s were but, dad explained, “Back during World War II when I was in The Paratroops the sergeant yelled, Role Call and I said, Don Nippert, bet you never heard that name before, he said, under his breath?”
And to dad’s surprise he surprised to learn that someone else had. Apparently a fellow Paratrooper told my dad that where he came from there were lots of Nippert’s and that place, was Cincinnati.
Dad pulled up in front of a building where the phone book had told him was a Nippert and that began Hattie’s, No Don’s and his Yes Hattie’s. Hattie ended the conversation with “DayMonYoDayKahSoWhen!” which is what she usually said when she was losing the yes, no, battle. She, Tom and Dave sat in the car as me and Pop marched on in to that tall building cause Pop said he was going to talk to a Nippert. And so was I!
After a few wrong turns we arrived in front of a door that proudly displayed, Nippert & Nippert, how neat was that I thought. We opened the door and walked right in. Dad said hello and asked if we could see, Mr. Nippert. The nice lady said she was sorry and that the Nippert’s were not in. Sadly dad and I stood there though proud of having made the effort to attempt to see the other Nippert’s. The Cincinnati Nippert’s.
Dad explained our journey and told her who we were. To which she told us that she knew the Nippert’s would be disappointed to learn they had missed us. We started to leave and she said for us to wait a minute while she went and got a book. She told us how the Nippert’s were interested in Genealogy and wondered if we might look at the book and see if we were in it. We were! And as dad pointed us out she handed him a pencil and asked him to fill in the blanks. The book seemed old; it was typed on tissue like crinkly paper.
Michael Nippert, it said and a son Earl. Earl was Pop’s father and Michael was a grandfather he never knew. Dad filled in Earl’s birth and death dates, his wife Harriet, my grandmother, and her dates, then his own, mom’s, Dave’s, mine and Tom’s. We left our name and number, thanked her and left. That was that and we drove on to our friend’s house. The year, circa 1959.
As of this writing the Cincinnati trip was fifty two years ago, the day is Sunday, February 13, 2011, I am about to be sixty one, Don will be eighty six this year and Hattie ninety one. Tom will be fifty eight and Dave would have been sixty five this year but, tragedy struck in February, 1982 and Dave died at age thirty five.
Thinking back to 1976 Dave had told me about a novel, I read the book and it told a story going back to 1767 about the life of a man named Kunta Kinte. The book “Roots” by Alex Haley. The novel became a best seller, published in thirty seven languages and in 1977 it became a popular television miniseries that reached a record breaking 130 million viewers. I guess I fell into the public interest and in my Genealogy roots and once again I wanted to learn more about my Heritage and Ancestry.
After reading the book I called Louis Nippert, one of the Cincinnati Nippert’s dad and I missed back in ’59 and he answered. I told him of; our visit, near some twenty years earlier, the book “Roots”, and my interest in Genealogy and that any help he could give me would greatly be appreciated.
Yes! It was and is greatly appreciated and later my wife and I stopped by Louis and Louise Cincinnati’s house and thanked them in person. Alfred, Louis's father had passed away.
Louise and Louis were gracious hosts and deeply appreciated our unexpected visit, I showed Louise Louis’s letter and showed her some of my research and then began asking questions. She told me of her visit to our ancestry’s homeland in France and the hospitality and Key to the City she was given. We took several pictures and she invited us back.
We exchanged Christmas cards for a while and Louise wrote me a few times. We were very sad when Louis passed away and we are very glad to know that as of this writing Louise is doing great and well into her nineties. God Bless Louise and Louis. Thank you so much for your friendship to me and my wife and your wonderful support to the people of Cincinnati and to the Nippert Genealogy.
Please start with the April Archieve.. and 'Food for Thought'
See my letter from Louis… in the older posts below
Oh, and contrary to C. Wilson's comment, that was, "Where Nippert got most of his information." this was all I got...Which was given too and used by her. Along with the Napoleon story... I researched. Your welcome cousin Christina! Please credit my folks for giving you my information along with crediting the Cincinnati Nipperts. You just might be interested in the Webb\Bradford and other lines you don't have. Oh lol as they say get in touch I would be happy to colaborate with you. Oh and the same for Godfried (Godfrey) California Nippert decendants' next time please get your information correct before publishing it, and glad I could help! lolol
In the beginning….
Hey Pop, how much longer is it to Cincinnati?
A couple more hours!
MOM! I need the jar!
ME too mom!
And that was what it was like in a 1955 Ford Customline Fordor from the back, clear vinyl covered bench seat with a hump on the floor in abt. 1959. The jar was for the purpose of us three boys back there to use when we had to go number one while on long drives.
Dan, that’s me, was nine years old, Tom, the younger brother was six and Dave was all of twelve. Hattie, my mom was thirty nine and Don, my dad was thirty four which, I didn’t know the age difference between mom and dad until about thirty years later. They didn’t want us to know there was a difference back then and I still do not know why not, they just didn’t.
Well, we were on our way to Cincinnati on what we called our summer vacation which was two days to pack, a day on the road, two days to stay there, a day to drive home, a day to unpack and a day to rest before resuming our normal lifestyles.
This vacation was well planned. It included snacks, canteens, comic books, pillows and blankets though mom eventuall said, “Don, go back, I forgot my girdle!” and that’s when I learned what a girdle was. We were on our way to see some old friends that moved away some two years ago, they had a horse and a place for us all to stay.
Dad drove into Cincinnati earlier than he expected so rather than go directly to our friend’s house we pulled up in front of a tall downtown building and we just sat there in the car. “No Don! – Yes Hattie!” the conversation went and we sat there.
Us boys, had no clue as to what the yes’s and no’s were but, dad explained, “Back during World War II when I was in The Paratroops the sergeant yelled, Role Call and I said, Don Nippert, bet you never heard that name before, he said, under his breath?”
And to dad’s surprise he surprised to learn that someone else had. Apparently a fellow Paratrooper told my dad that where he came from there were lots of Nippert’s and that place, was Cincinnati.
Dad pulled up in front of a building where the phone book had told him was a Nippert and that began Hattie’s, No Don’s and his Yes Hattie’s. Hattie ended the conversation with “DayMonYoDayKahSoWhen!” which is what she usually said when she was losing the yes, no, battle. She, Tom and Dave sat in the car as me and Pop marched on in to that tall building cause Pop said he was going to talk to a Nippert. And so was I!
After a few wrong turns we arrived in front of a door that proudly displayed, Nippert & Nippert, how neat was that I thought. We opened the door and walked right in. Dad said hello and asked if we could see, Mr. Nippert. The nice lady said she was sorry and that the Nippert’s were not in. Sadly dad and I stood there though proud of having made the effort to attempt to see the other Nippert’s. The Cincinnati Nippert’s.
Dad explained our journey and told her who we were. To which she told us that she knew the Nippert’s would be disappointed to learn they had missed us. We started to leave and she said for us to wait a minute while she went and got a book. She told us how the Nippert’s were interested in Genealogy and wondered if we might look at the book and see if we were in it. We were! And as dad pointed us out she handed him a pencil and asked him to fill in the blanks. The book seemed old; it was typed on tissue like crinkly paper.
Michael Nippert, it said and a son Earl. Earl was Pop’s father and Michael was a grandfather he never knew. Dad filled in Earl’s birth and death dates, his wife Harriet, my grandmother, and her dates, then his own, mom’s, Dave’s, mine and Tom’s. We left our name and number, thanked her and left. That was that and we drove on to our friend’s house. The year, circa 1959.
As of this writing the Cincinnati trip was fifty two years ago, the day is Sunday, February 13, 2011, I am about to be sixty one, Don will be eighty six this year and Hattie ninety one. Tom will be fifty eight and Dave would have been sixty five this year but, tragedy struck in February, 1982 and Dave died at age thirty five.
Thinking back to 1976 Dave had told me about a novel, I read the book and it told a story going back to 1767 about the life of a man named Kunta Kinte. The book “Roots” by Alex Haley. The novel became a best seller, published in thirty seven languages and in 1977 it became a popular television miniseries that reached a record breaking 130 million viewers. I guess I fell into the public interest and in my Genealogy roots and once again I wanted to learn more about my Heritage and Ancestry.
After reading the book I called Louis Nippert, one of the Cincinnati Nippert’s dad and I missed back in ’59 and he answered. I told him of; our visit, near some twenty years earlier, the book “Roots”, and my interest in Genealogy and that any help he could give me would greatly be appreciated.
Yes! It was and is greatly appreciated and later my wife and I stopped by Louis and Louise Cincinnati’s house and thanked them in person. Alfred, Louis's father had passed away.
Louise and Louis were gracious hosts and deeply appreciated our unexpected visit, I showed Louise Louis’s letter and showed her some of my research and then began asking questions. She told me of her visit to our ancestry’s homeland in France and the hospitality and Key to the City she was given. We took several pictures and she invited us back.
We exchanged Christmas cards for a while and Louise wrote me a few times. We were very sad when Louis passed away and we are very glad to know that as of this writing Louise is doing great and well into her nineties. God Bless Louise and Louis. Thank you so much for your friendship to me and my wife and your wonderful support to the people of Cincinnati and to the Nippert Genealogy.
Please start with the April Archieve.. and 'Food for Thought'
See my letter from Louis… in the older posts below
Oh, and contrary to C. Wilson's comment, that was, "Where Nippert got most of his information." this was all I got...Which was given too and used by her. Along with the Napoleon story... I researched. Your welcome cousin Christina! Please credit my folks for giving you my information along with crediting the Cincinnati Nipperts. You just might be interested in the Webb\Bradford and other lines you don't have. Oh lol as they say get in touch I would be happy to colaborate with you. Oh and the same for Godfried (Godfrey) California Nippert decendants' next time please get your information correct before publishing it, and glad I could help! lolol
That Night
It was the time when the horrific, historic, disparaging voyage of their passage was concluding it was December. The number of survivors calling themselves passengers had diminished, and it was cold, wet and miserable. The souls in their numbers were vanquished, lost and unforgiving; they felt exhausted, unsanitary, abandoned, depressed and afraid. The crew was tired, sick and hungry they were desperate, lonely and insanely savage for their own lust. Everyone was in close quarters, most were sick, many dying and hope was fading.A small congregation of their membership was again out scouting and foraging for food and a place to find a safe haven in which to succumb to a second attempt at a life in adversity, deprivation, weather and inhuman conditions, anguish and doubt. The Separatists had indeed separated and it had become apparent that perhaps even their own existence was in peril. Everyone had a useless dependency upon everyone else and only they and their own existence mattered.Upon his return to the ship his faith was beside him and his thoughts of the hideous crime of murder occupied his disbelief. How and why did this happen? Who was to blame? Her disappearance could not have been possible unless others had turned their heads, how is it no one saw? Where is her body, why was she forsaken? Why did no one see her depression? Why did no one help her, why was she alone! She was murdered and I can do nothing or say nothing. She is lost and gone into the cold watery depths of darkness and loneliness. The crime has been committed and no one was witness too it. Everyone is dependent upon their own silence for their very existence and no one dare let the truth ever be known as to what had happened ‘That Night’.
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